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Vilenkin's Tunneling from Nothing vs Tryon Vacuum Fluctuation
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Vilenkin's Tunneling from Nothing Speculative | Tryon Vacuum Fluctuation Historical | |
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| Proposed | 1982 | 1973 |
| Key figures | Alexander Vilenkin | Edward Tryon |
| In one sentence | Vilenkin proposed in 1982 that the universe quantum-tunneled into existence from a state with no space, no time, no fields, literal nothing. | Tryon's 1973 Nature paper proposed the universe is a quantum fluctuation with zero net energy, the historical precursor to all "universe from nothing" proposals. |
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| Key unresolved problem | The laws-from-nothing problem: the quantum tunneling that creates the universe still needs quantum laws and a space of possible states to work in, so the proposal has not truly started from nothing. | The pre-existing vacuum problem: Tryon's proposal still starts from a quantum vacuum that already comes with physical laws and geometry, so it explains the universe but not where those prior ingredients came from. |
| Reader vote | 100% · 2 votes | 0% · 0 votes |
Vilenkin's Tunneling from Nothing
1982 · Speculative
Tryon Vacuum Fluctuation
1973 · Historical
Proposed
1982
1973
Key figures
Alexander Vilenkin
Edward Tryon
In one sentence
Vilenkin proposed in 1982 that the universe quantum-tunneled into existence from a state with no space, no time, no fields, literal nothing.
Tryon's 1973 Nature paper proposed the universe is a quantum fluctuation with zero net energy, the historical precursor to all "universe from nothing" proposals.
Predictions
- [[Inflation]] begins naturally with high probability after tunneling
- Universe is initially small, closed, and de Sitter-like
- No contracting phase before the Bang
- Total energy of universe ~ 0
- Universes can spontaneously fluctuate from vacuum
Where it breaks
- Krauss: still requires quantum laws, so not really nothing
- Hawking & Bousso (1995): catastrophic particle production
- Penrose: ignores Weyl curvature hypothesis
- Tryon's proposal still presupposes a quantum vacuum and laws, not truly nothing
- Vilenkin (1982) provides the rigorous framework Tryon lacked
Key unresolved problem
The laws-from-nothing problem: the quantum tunneling that creates the universe still needs quantum laws and a space of possible states to work in, so the proposal has not truly started from nothing.
The pre-existing vacuum problem: Tryon's proposal still starts from a quantum vacuum that already comes with physical laws and geometry, so it explains the universe but not where those prior ingredients came from.
Reader vote
100% · 2 votes
0% · 0 votes